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Qual · Sep 03, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Even Avarre agrees, and he's... like... a pro mesmer

He can be a shitty mesmer for all you know...

SotiCoto · Sep 03, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

I figured Gwen should have been an Elementalist after her little nuke-fest back in the original Prophecies preview event.

Oh well. I'm sure I'll eventually find a use for her... after I went and kitted out Norgu too... v_v;

Twonaiver · Sep 03, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

makes all sense since she healed us before she would be a monk, i too felt a little desapointment findin she is a mesmer, i feel like she have switched roles from helpin little girl to agressive charr slayer, also a mesmer, this thread seem to have gone the same point to mesmer hate thread becouse op stated noobishlly of her been a mesmer sucking, i like mesmers a lot SV FTW, but i wish she was the monk and ogden the mes, would make more sense.

dont express infunded hate, wont lead us anywhere.

Big_Iron · Sep 03, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

I don't know jack about Mesmer's, except they're good at interrupts and degen. So, I made Gwen a Fast-casting nuker. She's worked out pretty well in that department.

Snow Bunny · Sep 03, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I suppose if Gwen wasn't a mesmer....what would she be?

What do you need more of?

Unless Gwen was to do some serious traveling and rack up them frequent flyer miles, I don't think she'd be a paragon, which would be very nice nevertheless.

Coloneh · Sep 03, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Diablo™

They needed a hero for every class, if Gwen wasn't going to be a mesmer, someone else would.

But if we already know that, then this thread isn't really about the mesmers status in PVE, and more about someone's obsession over Gwen is it?

yeah, they needed a mesmer hero in eotn(i suppose), but why is it gwen? she said she wanted to be a warrior and she heals players.everyone loves gwen, and i personally thought it would be cool to have her in my party. maybe anet should fix mesmers.

Aramaki · Sep 03, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Hee I thought maybe Gwen want to be a monk healer since she frequently heals with her magical flute when in pre-searing, but then she said mesmers' outfits are nicer... Ha girls will be girls.

I've no problem with Gwen being a Mesmer since her interrupt/shut down skills looks pretty effective so far, though I'm just a causal pve player and never play a Mesmer before, also seldom use one as a henchmen but gwen gonna change that. Seems alright to me that I can get a Mesmer hero early too, compare to Nightfall.

"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?" You want Gwen as a warrior? I rather not >.<

ACreator · Sep 03, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

completly agree with aramaki..

still I get pissed off because other thing...

all core professions have 3 heroes except mesmer....

A-NET thats discrimination.....

Chicken Ftw · Sep 03, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by ACreator

all core professions have 3 heroes except mesmer....

A-NET thats discrimination.....

Can you honestly give me a good, efficient PvE team build that makes use of three mesmers, that couldn't be outclassed by another team build? I can't think of a single reason to ever need three mesmers in PvE.

Semi-offtopic: still amazed at the number of people who think mesmers are a great choice for PvE parties, and that anyone who disagrees just doesn't know how to play mesmer at all. /sigh

Titch2011 · Sep 03, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

I can't think of a single reason to ever need three mesmers in PvE.

Well you could have 3 (or a mix) of either an interrupt, a degen, a fast casting monk, an Me/N SS, a fast casting nuker, a fast casting airspiker, an IW person, a rezmez, a water hexer... the list goes on

God Apprentice · Sep 03, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

your right mesmers are totally useless why have mesmer heros.

/fail

Mesmers are great utility, and are very helpful in pve situations.

Chicken Ftw · Sep 03, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Titch2011

Well you could have 3 (or a mix) of either an interrupt, a degen, a fast casting monk, an Me/N SS, a fast casting nuker, a fast casting airspiker, an IW person, a rezmez, a water hexer... the list goes on

Quote:

Can you honestly give me a good, efficient PvE team build that makes use of three mesmers, that couldn't be outclassed by another team build?

...But I'm praying that was sarcasm. 'Cause we all know how extremely useful those Me/E FC water hexers are. <3

street peddler · Sep 03, 2007, 08:18 PM // 20:18

usually when i have a free space in the party ill take the mesmer henchie, interrupts = less damage taken by us, also can easily take down healers..

Divinitys Creature · Sep 04, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

She wanted to grow up to be just like Lady Althea

Diablo™ · Sep 04, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

yeah, they needed a mesmer hero in eotn(i suppose), but why is it gwen? she said she wanted to be a warrior and she heals players.everyone loves gwen, and i personally thought it would be cool to have her in my party. maybe anet should fix mesmers.

Honestly I too got the impression she was going to be a warrior, but according to her quotes:
"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?".

seems like she made a choice in career based on their outfits... go figure

Coloneh · Sep 04, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by Diablo™

Honestly I too got the impression she was going to be a warrior, but according to her quotes:
"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?".

seems like she made a choice in career based on their outfits... go figure

that quote always sounds to me like she wants to be a warrior but is slightly disappointed that their armor dosnt look as good as mesmers like lady althea.

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Originally Posted by ACreator

completly agree with aramaki..

still I get pissed off because other thing...

all core professions have 3 heroes except mesmer....

A-NET thats discrimination.....

all the other core professions are also useful as a primary. thats even more descrimination.

anet should fix mesmers and give us another mesmer hero.

blue.rellik · Sep 04, 2007, 04:46 AM // 04:46

I still think a wurm should have been the mesmer hero

Patrick Smit · Sep 04, 2007, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

The only advantages iv heard for mesmer primary are an extra second of blackout and fast casting, but the thing is that fast casting isnt that useful in PvE. It dosnt make your heroes able to interrups spells they wouldnt have been able to with 0 FC. the spells getting on the enemies is what counts, not that you can do it in 3/4 of the time.

Energy storage ans Soul Reaping are just more useful. take that picture above for example, is that GoLE i spy? the character would be more effective as an ele primary. more energy reserves are always useful.

No, gole from ele would not be more useful, cost of the mesmer spells is restricted at 10 e. Emanagment is better then extra energy in pool. So the ele as a mesmer is shite unless u use energy management from the energy storage line. The necro could be an alternative, true energy management in the form of soul reaping, but he would be better of using necro spells. A domination memser can stil fire of spells +2-4 levels higher, with less window of oppertunity for interupts. U consider FC useless, but it makes u less vulnerable to interupts, as also AI is busy and can't just fire off interupts if busy.

Surena · Sep 04, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

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Originally Posted by God Apprentice

/fail

Mesmers are great utility, and are very helpful in pve situations.

No, they can't do anything better than all the other classes, in fact there are even more reasons to bring a moebius-sin than any mesmer at all.

The "you plebeians fail at Guild Wars because you fail to accept, recognize and appreciate the Mesmer class"-attitude is arrogant. Some should learn thinking outside PvP, even though it would mean getting off the high horse.

Regarding PvP there is no single doubt that they are far from underestimated and one of the most powerful classes, if not the most - that however does not belong here.

madman24749 · Sep 04, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41

You've got to be completely stupid to think that ANY class sucks
Mesmers own, Gwen looks awesome as a mesmer, is an excellent addition to a team if you give her a PROPER build
I honestly cannot believe people are complaining that shes a mesmer . . .
Mesmers rule! Try versing one! You ain't got a chance

And three mesmer heroes, gods that would be insanely cool! I can just imagine all the Cry of Frustration fun I could have with that

Crazy area of effect interrupting ftw!